Tonight, New Haven has passed the first legislation of its kind in the country by a vote of 25-1 – A municipal ID bill that would open up an array of services to New Haven residents, including undocumented aliens.
The Courant had a story today that explains the program:
To address the problem, New Haven wants to create a municipal identification card, which supporters say would help assimilate immigrants as well as provide a range of benefits to other residents who may not have official IDs, such as the elderly and children.
The card would be recognized as official identification within city limits, allowing immigrants to open bank accounts and avoid carrying around wads of cash.
The card also would provide all holders access to city services, from parks to libraries, and function as a type of limited debit card.
The Courant also drives home the human side of why this is a necessary and vital program:
The desperate whimpers coming from inside the locked apartment convinced Marieah Viviel she had to get inside.
The plaintive noise grew louder as Viviel called her friend’s name: “Elena! Elena!”
Viviel repeatedly threw her body against the flimsy door until it flung open. She found Elena and her 7-year-old son lying on the kitchen floor, their hands and feet bound with electrical cords.
They had been there for days. A foul stench hung in the air. The apartment was in disarray, ransacked. Everything of value was gone. Mother and child were terrified.
“His face, it was almost like he had a grownup’s face,” Viviel said, who described the two victims as undocumented immigrants from El Salvador. “Fear changed his face.”
The home invasion robbery fit an all-too-familiar pattern for the day-to-day lives of illegal immigrants. Lacking formal documents, they cannot open bank accounts. That means they often carry cash or keep it in their homes, which makes them robbery targets.
Emphasis added.
Mayor DeStefano explained the importance of the “Elm City Resident Cards” in a press release today (no link – I got the release in an email):
“This card will allow everyone who lives in New Haven the opportunity to have a qualified identity, a name that will be acknowledged by the City, the police department, hospitals, merchants and the community,” said DeStefano. “At the end of the day, it’s all about community – about people from all walks of life living in this City, sending our children to the same successful schools and living on the same streets, together as neighbors. Our community is one that values the contributions of every individual and for that reason we should each have the right to be called by our name. The Elm City Resident Card confirms this.”
The opposition, the Southern Connecticut Citizens for Immigration Reform, based in North Branford, respond on their website (no link, sorry) with characteristic restraint:
HIS FEUDAL LORD DESTEFANO, TURNS NEUVO HAVANNA (FORMALLY NEW HAVEN) INTO A VASSAL STATE AS AMERIKA YAWNS.
June 4, 07 remember this day New Haven ,this day will be referred to in history as the sunset of our Nation. I am deeply concerned about the cavalier and open manner in which Destefano and his cronies flaunt and intentionally subvert the law (US code 8.) and the underhanded and secretive techniques they use to subvert it. Remember this New Haven, the radical left and international corperate interests salivate at the very thought of the MUNICIPAL I.D. It fits in with their plan of replacing LEGAL AMERICANS with less demanding, lower maintainance, less educated and less costly SERFS. I must say I’m surprised and disappointed at how easily the traitors; the leftests and despots at NH city hall have outwitted and coersced what has proven to be a politically ignorant and disinterested public while hardly breaking a sweat . Tommorrow will tell the story… it appears LEGAL AMERICANS are willing to trade their quality of life, for the price of a shiny new card they can swipe thru a parking meter. Well, when 100,000 or so ILLEGALS come to town and swipe your jobs using THEIR NEWLY ACQUIRED MUNICIPAL ID’S… maybe you can use your new card to feed the meter…in front of the unemployment office.
Here is my bottom line – There are somewhere around 12 million undocumented aliens in the United States. The idea of deporting all of them is staggeringly unrealistic, both pragmatically and in economic terms. So we have two choices (three if you include advocating deporting all of them from your softly-padded room): Stick your head in the sand, pretend it isn’t happening, occasionally pick your head up and nibble around the margins with legislation that is sure both not to pass and to infuriate everyone, rinse, lather, repeat (you may recognize this as the approach of the federal government).
Or, do what New Haven (and, to a lesser extent the state, through allowing the children of undocumented aliens to pay instate tuition rates at public colleges) is doing and take the first step toward integrating immigrants into our society and culture, eliminating the incentive for violent criminals to use them as human ATMs, and hope that something you do somehow forces the federal government to actually address the issue. As a woman in this clip argues, the people involved are already our neighbors and will continue to be – what we do is up to us (at least, thats what I inferred her point to be before the arguing broke out).
Make no mistake about it, so long as there are economic incentives that create a demand for people to cross our borders, you can build a fence to the moon and it won’t prevent a thing. The only question is whether we as a society take steps to integrate immigrants into American life and culture or continue to create a permanent immigrant underclass with no hope of emerging from the shadows.
I, the decedents of two peoples, one who sailed into New York Harbor, past the Statue of Liberty (you know, give me your tired, your poor, your huddled mass yearning to breathe free, that statue) to lay bricks and create a better life and the other who ran from their homes, possessions, and everything they knew to escape certain death at the hands of a madman (luckily with documents, unlike so many others), vote for a larger, more inclusive American society. If it takes the Elm City to lead the Land of the Free, then so be it.
Update: MLN has DeStefano’s full press release.
Update: Spazeboy weighs in.
VIVA DeStefano and New Haven,
For having the courage to see a problem and then acting decisevly to solve it.
LEADERSHIP is very rare in our state.
Hate warning, ‘wingers approaching…
Amazing!
DeStefano actually got one right!
I only hope it’ll work.
All New Haven needs is a wave of fresh immigrants, legal or otherwise to clean the place up – just look at Danbury that in under 20 years transformed itself from a virtual cesspool (much like NH is now) to the 14th safest city in the US. (Their mayor, a serious student of David Duke it seems, has failed to comprehend just how Danbury was saved.)
Bridgeport too is, thanks to some fresh blood from elsewhere; being revitalized one street at a time by it’s new residents who see opportunity where the rest of us see desolation.
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Vioilation of rules 2, 6, and 8
Ha ha. I bet Dan Debicella is glad New Haven is not his district.
Dan is just is old school and behind the times on so many issues like
his stance against giving illegals who lived in CT much of their lives
in-state tuition rates. He acts as if we do that it will be like the Fall
of the Roman Empire or something. Ohh yah and he thinks rape victims
should not have Plan B contraception.
Couple of comments:
That group you quote looks like a complete joke. It doesn’t even have a proper website: http://www.webspawner.com/users/sctir/ is the url. (I keep wanting to say “they” but it’s probably more correct just to say “he”). The press release you cited had a whole bunch of spelling mistakes.
While I don’t think that a fence is the best idea, fences have worked to keep people in or out of particular countries. The Israeli fence along the occupied territories is largely regarded as a success (by this I mean it keeps people out). The Spanish fences on the Moroccan border do keep most people out as well (although these are short fences, as Spain only has a few enclaves on the African continent). My thought on the most efficient way to get a border fence would be to funnel a few million to the Communist Party in Mexico so they can ascend to power. Then they’d build a fence, because the commies were really good at building fences to keep their people in. That’s about all they were really good at.
There are probably better ways of keeping out illegal immigrants, though. Like making sure that employers don’t hire illegal immigrants.
One thing that I don’t understand is this. Most people will at some point admit that we need to have some restrictions on who can come into the United States. We just can’t let anyone come in: we’d be overrun. I mean, seriously, do you really think that we could just let anyone in with no border control or control on immigrant visas?
So, if you think that we need some border control, why should we let people who slipped over the border stay merely because they were successful in becoming illegal immigrants? It just seems like a bizarre way of allocating slots to those who are strong enough to sneak into the country.
A final question: are the New Haven IDs valid for that proposed election day registration?
Since the EDR bill is fairly specific regarding the means in which voter’s eligibility will be verified, it seems pretty clear that a municipal ID would not qualify – but that is just my reading, the SoS, who has power to interpret election statutes would make the final call.
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Some of us “wingers” think its a good thing chief. And I agree that it is ridiculous to deport ump-teen million illegal aliens. But, alas, Congress hasn’t done shit on this yet. And this doesn’t stop the problem folks. We still need to secure the border.
Now, along GMR’s line of questioning, and as I commented under a previous post, why can’t the state do this too and then require a photo ID for EDR? It’s a good idea here, why isn’t it there?
My question about this being a valid form of ID for election day registration was sort of tongue-in-cheek. After all, if illegal immigrants can get this card, it can’t possibly be a valid form of ID to prove voter eligibility.
Its not that its a good idea in NH, but not in CT. I think it would be a good idea in CT as well. My problem is not with the ID card, but with the requirement of photo ID to vote. Lets be realistic, this goes into effect July 1, do you have any hopes that by Nov. 1, 2008 there won’t still be a significant number of people who still don’t have photo IDs (given that 12% of voting age Americans don’t have a photo ID, combined with the demographics of that group, and you have to figure that the % is significantly higher in a city like New Haven)? Ultimately, you would have the same VRA problem.
Also, and I don’t think anyone would disagree with this, if these cards are going to be distributed to undocumented aliens, then they are not appropriate as ID for voting purposes – no one wants people to vote who aren’t eligible, just that everyone who is eligible is able to vote.
Of course, this is significantly OT.
On Congress, I’ve heard it opined that whatever ultimately gets out of both houses of Congress will change significantly in the joint conference. Reid and Pelosi will take the opportunity to craft a bill that they have the votes for and that Bush (far right on most things but not really on immigration) can live with; it will drive the national ‘wingers (Tancredo et al.) nuts, but there won’t be much that they can do.
I hope that is the case.
BREAKING__RELL VETOES ENERGY BILL- SORT OF
I’ve been informed Rell will use a little known provision that gives her line Item veto power to veto some parts of the Energy Bill passed the other day.
Anyone got more specifics?
BREAKING
KEEP LOU ALIVE campaign is a huge hit in the Dem Caucus in both houses and Republican Caucus Too (if you get Republicans in Small groups they’re said to be Lauging their asses off)
KEEP LOU ALIVE
If someone is too lazy to go get a photo ID, why wouldn’t they be too lazy to go vote? It can be a long walk to get the polls, even in the city ya know…
And I realize that carte blanche issuance of ID’s won’t work for EDR, but free state issued ID’s could be imlemented with a clear difference between those eligible to vote and those who are not.
Again, OT, but I am flipping through my copy of the Constitution, but I can’t seem to find the part where not being lazy is a requirement to vote…
[quote comment="11655"]If someone is too lazy to go get a photo ID, why wouldn’t they be too lazy to go vote? It can be a long walk to get the polls, even in the city ya know…
And I realize that carte blanche issuance of ID’s won’t work for EDR, but free state issued ID’s could be imlemented with a clear difference between those eligible to vote and those who are not.[/quote]
Show me where I said it was Gabe…simply an observation my liberal friend. Nothing more. :p
Right, Disgruntled. Non-citizens are so eager to break the law in order to cast a lone ballot that much tougher restrictions are required.
Did I mention earlier that I’m for federally mandated retinal scans and finger-printing of all children before the age of ten?
Photo ID’s can be forged. But a retinal scan can’t!
I guess the threat of potential laziness is a good reason not to expand the franchise…
Gabe: My contrary views are completely in line with George Will’s most recent Newsweek column:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18881801/site/newsweek/?from=rss
I’ve lived in New Haven for 4 years as a student, and most of the time I disagree with what the Mayor and the Board of Aldermen are doing. The label “radical left” is probably appropriate. But this ID is a pragmatic response to the situation.
The communities in New Haven have big problems. Violent crime is too prevalent. There are some gangs and troublemakers that contribute to the problem. A large portion of the population are illegal immigrants, but not violent criminals. As someone living in New Haven worried about violence on the streets, and worried about walking home at night, I want those illegals to feel that they can talk to the police without being arrested and deported.
Having so many people in the city unable to open bank accounts is a recipe for disaster. The mugging industry thrives off this kind of situation.
I know it’s not great to condone illegal behavior, but our safety comes first here. I find it interesting that the group leading the charge against this is from North Branford. How many of them have been to Newhallville or Fairhaven? Do they have to lock their doors at night for fear of who is going to be breaking and entering?
Illegal immigration needs to be dealt with on the federal level. At home, we need to take care of ourselves.
Governor Rell Signs Energy Bill
[quote comment="11654"]BREAKING
KEEP LOU ALIVE campaign is a huge hit in the Dem Caucus in both houses and Republican Caucus Too (if you get Republicans in Small groups they’re said to be Lauging their asses off)
KEEP LOU ALIVE[/quote]
Wow. You’re really single-handedly changing the face of Connecticut politics. Why don’t the Dems hire you? They could use some creative brains at this stage. And it would be a job. That pays money…
::YAWN::
KEEP LOU ALIVE!
As the face of the Republican Party, — PRICELESS!
Heck, he even makes Amann look like a grown-up by comparison…
I actually don’t think this will hurt Lou or the CT GOP one bit. Although illegal, it’s kind of a sympathetic story.
KEEP LOU ALIVE
TS,
“Louie the Lash” is SQEALING like the guy in the movie Deliverence .The FEDS had him on about 10 federal charges that would have put him in prison for life and the fact they let him skate on a misdemenor means he had PLENTY to squeal about.
“Louie the Lash” is now a RAT and before this is over may need to be put in the Witness Protection Program.
[quote post="600"]“Louie the Lash” is SQEALING like the guy in the movie Deliverence .The FEDS had him on about 10 federal charges that would have put him in prison for life and the fact they let him skate on a misdemenor means he had PLENTY to squeal about.
“Louie the Lash” is now a RAT and before this is over may need to be put in the Witness Protection Program. [/quote]
No more Sopranos Keith. Turn off the tv and step away from the remote
Tony–
If the Feds hadn’t intervened, the “visit” had occurred, and the target had gotten his “bitch-slapping”, would you still describe this as a sympathetic story?
Still too many unanswered questions for this one to go away. Was there really a family member getting abused? How deeply was DeLuca in bed with Galante? How many “appointments” has DeLuca made, and how many of them weren’t on the up and up?
Finally, DeLuca told the undercover FBI agent to reach him next time through this contact that nobody knew about. Who was this go-between?
And oh yeah, when DeLuca said he would do whatever he could to help the convicted Galante, did he ever act on his promise?
QUE UP THE THEME FROM THE GODFATHER,
My Sources say Lou Ratted out another Republican Member of the Senate and now he’s also SINGING to the FBI.
C’mon Keith. “Rat” is a term of the past. I think the new politically correct term is “cooperating witness”. Isn’t that how the Courant referred to DeLuca today?
You really shoudn’t go around calling him “Louie the Rat”, without some shred of evidence. What makes you think a “family guy” like DeLuca would ever squeal on a paisan?
I tell you one thing, you keep this up and one day you’re going to get whacked. Whacked, I tell you…
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What makes you think Louie ratted out a paisan?
Yes I would. Who wouldn’t do anything to stop their granddaughter from getting the crap kicked out of her on a regular basis when she refuses to press charges. If we’re bringing up mafia movies, did anyone disagree with Sonny beating the bag out of his brother-in-law for beating on his sister
Stark; In CT the victim of domestic violence doesn’t have to press charges; in fact, the victim has no say if the PD has probable cause to make an arrest the PD must make an arrest, period. And Louie should know that law and how it came to be on the books although I can’t say how he voted. Plus read my links on the other post for the veracity of Louie the Liar’s allegations. Louie lied to the FBI and avoided prosecution for that felony by pleaading out to a lesser state charge – a charge of which the statute of lims had expired and the state judge was reluctant to approve.
But Toucan, that’s just to make an arrest and remove one of the parties from a potentially explosive situation, right? I think it would be hard moving the arrest forward and actually getting a conviction without a cooperating witness or victim.
LenS; your hypothetical is ridiculous on its face as well as being a red herring that LOuie the Liar wanted you all to buy into; it’s pretty clear there never was any domestic violence or the prosecutor wouldn’t have asked Louie the Liar’s target if he was OK with the plea.
Toucan, I’m proposing no hypothetical and not applying it to DeLuca’s situation. I’m simply pointing out that making an arrest is not the same someone being convicted of domestic abuse or actually resolving a domestic abuse situation. It only separates the parties for a brief period of time.
Yeah sure, LenS. I have often wondered why Judge’s benches are still made of wood but I didn’t bring that up just because Louie was in court before a judge yesterday
straight from the CSO’s office::As part of the plea agreement, federal authorities agreed not to indict Mr. DeLuca for comments made to an FBI agent in September 2006 and for his actions taken to threaten or injure the individual who had allegedly abused Mr. DeLuca’s relative.
http://www.ct.gov/csao/cwp/view.asp?Q=382632&A=1801
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070605/D8PISTEG0.html
Approval of the new IDs was good news for immigrants like Miguel Cienfuendes, whose brother was stabbed to death in a robbery last fall. Cienfuendes, who moved to New Haven from Mexico, lives in fear of being robbed.
“I don’t walk the streets any more,” Cienfuendes said recently, speaking through an interpreter. “Where we live it’s scary. We don’t know when they are going to come after us thinking we have money.”
Welcome to the club, Miguel. I don’t think an ID card is going to help you, though…
The ID card, in addition to being able to be used as a limited debit card, allows the bearer to be able to open a bank account. As the post above and the linked articles indicate, undocumented aliens are extremely vulnerable to violent robberies, precisely because they have no recourse but to carry cash.
That’s a strawman, Gabe, and a fairly transparent one at that.
If you’re really going to claim that street criminals and would-be muggers consciously target people who appear to be illegal immigrants because they’re more likely to be carrying cash than members of the general public, I’m afraid I’m going to ask for something more than a liberal hypothesis and some anectdotal evidence from Miguel.
I find it extremely difficult to believe that the illegal community is both well-heeled and rolling around town with large amounts of cash that expose them to increased risk of muggings.
If I’m wrong, and if this is the case, then prove it. Where is your evidence that this is the case?