Remembering 9/11

Gov. Rell has called for a moment of silence at 8:46 this morning.
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It’s fitting, somehow, that democracy happens on this day. That was the case on the original 9/11, as well–it was also a municipal primary day.

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27 responses to “Remembering 9/11

  1. One way to remember 9/11 that moves beyond the culture of fear.

    On Sept. 11, Jacob Sundberg of San Antonio has pledged to make eye contact and smile at everyone he meets. Kaitlin Ulrich will bring goody baskets to the police and fire departments in and around Philadelphia. And 100 volunteers from New York – 9/11 firefighters and family members among them – are going to Groesbeck, Texas, to rebuild a house destroyed by a tornado last December.

    This is a minute sampling of the hundreds of thousands of people who have pledged to memorialize those killed on 9/11 by doing something good for others.

    The heroic acts of all those killed trying to save others that September morning has spawned a growing grass-roots movement. The goal is to ensure that future generations remember not just the horror of the attacks, but also the extraordinary outpouring of humanity during the days, weeks, and months that followed.

    More here.

  2. That’s a good way to remember, Mike, thanks. That’s one thing I do remember, is how we all really did pull together to help one another.

  3. Isn't it ironic

    Hats off to you, MikeCT.

    I heard someone on the radio today talking about “September 12th:” the day that we all pulled together. And Bloomberg was surprisingly (at least to me) eloquent this morning:

    “On that day, we felt isolated, but not for long, and not from each other. ”

    It is good that democracy marches on today at the polls; and equally good that the political discourse pauses to remember.

  4. [quote post=”953″]that the political discourse pauses to remember[/quote]

    but should never stop because then the criminals who perpetuated the attack would have won in trying to terrorize all of us into something less than a democratic state.

  5. That the Petraeus hearings are being held on September 11th is a fucking disgrace.

    Of course if the Bush/Cheney administration had any shame, they wouldn’t have used the terrorist attacks as a bullshit reason to wage a stupid, unwinnable, elective war in Iraq.

    And oh yeah, Osama Bin Laden is still alive? Yet the DC blowhards spend all day yakking and spinning, instead of in appropriate silence?

  6. Derby Conservative

    Perfect comment from TBCT. Take a post about remembering 9/11 and remember how united we all can be despite our differences of opinion and make an asinine comment using what is frankly, disgusting language. Can’t we get beyond this discourse for one post? Go post your venom on one of the other more appropriate topics.

    Never forget. 343.

  7. Sure Derby. Sweep the whole Iraq ugliness under the rug. That will honor those who died six years ago, and those who died this weekend, yesterday, and probably today.

    The mother-of-all dog and pony shows is happening at the Capitol today. And yeah, it pisses me off.

    Do you think it’s appropriate to hold these hearings this week?

  8. Derby Conservative

    I think it’s appropriate for Democracy to happen along whatever timeframe it happens. I’m not sweeping Iraq under the rug you boob, I’m just saying that this post isn’t the place for it.

  9. Enough, TBCT. Welcome to the moderated list.

    I hope the rest of us can find ways to find common ground with our fellow Americans today.

  10. Derby Conservative

    And it’s not a dog and pony show. It’s a professional soldier making a progress report to the civilian governement. See my post under the Dodd and Iraq topic from yesterday.

  11. TrueBlue, are you ever going to respond to this quote from UConn’s Zak Penwell, in the August 19 Hartford Courant? I’ve posted it three times:

    “The big thing that hit me in Iraq was how difficult it was to really get an accurate picture to people, both in the country and here at home, just what it was that we were doing,” Penwell said. “There was, and still is, great stuff going on and progress being made. But the terrorists there had really learned how to use the media to their advantage, and as a result things constantly were being portrayed as worse than they really were. I know I was constantly trying to convince my wife and parents back home that we were doing much, much better than was being reported. I left truly feeling that the only way we could lose there was if the American people gave up, but that that is a very real threat and one we need to be careful of.”

    http://www.courant.com/sports/hc-ucfoot0819.artaug19,0,705944.story

    You’re free to believe what you want. I believe Zak Penwell. He’s been there. Have you?

  12. TBCT: I’m more concerned about Dem attacks on our troops (Durbin, Schumer, Murtha) then I am about hearings being held on 9/11! To wit, if we can have primary elections on 9/11 then why not have Senate hearings?

    For the record, Sen. Obama shares TBCT’s view. In fact, he also objects to the hearings being held on 9/10 or 9/12.
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/09/obama-doesnt-li.html

    Of course, I’m sure he objects to Fox News covering the hearings. 🙂
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/04/obama_to_nix_fo.html

  13. Hey, TBCT was definitley off base at #5 but since TBCT has been “moderated” on this by Genghis at #9 is it really fair for the right to be shooting at him on this thread????

  14. Genghis. Rell called for a moment of silence, not a whole day’s worth. I had mine this morning while watching a half hour of planes flying into buildings during MSNBC’s annual 9/11-a-thon. (Geez Condi, who would’ve thunk?!)

    After that it’s been sheer outrage that Bush would once again politicize 9/11. (the worst was the 2004 GOP convention.) So if a little cussing spilled into the sanctity of your thread, I guess I am genuinely sorry. It’s just as a red-blooded American it’s difficult for me to detach myself from the death, foolhardiness and yes, the politics of Iraq. (At this point our continued occupation is purely political, just as it was in Vietnam.)

    Dobbster–

    I’m glad you found one soldier who remains confident about our prospects for success in Iraq. Hang on to that clipping, heck put it on your fridge if it makes you feel better.

    But for the record you should note that even Shays thinks our chances of success are but 1-in-4. (And if he says that, you’ve got to imagine he actually believes the odds are slimmer.)

    Shays Plan B? We redeploy to the deserts and watch as Sunni and Shi’a battle it out!

  15. [quote comment=”18880″]Genghis. Rell called for a moment of silence, not a whole day’s worth. I had mine this morning while watching a half hour of planes flying into buildings during MSNBC’s annual 9/11-a-thon. [/quote]

    I happened across MSNBC’s 9/11-porn while flipping channels this morning. Disgusting.

    If folks want to relive the entire morning, there’s always YouTube. As for people (like myself) who were within hearing and breathing distance of the entire event and it’s aftermath six years ago, I don’t think any of us need to relive the event viscerally just because we happen to be flipping channels looking for today’s Congressional hearings.

  16. [quote comment=”18871″]Enough, TBCT. Welcome to the moderated list.

    I hope the rest of us can find ways to find common ground with our fellow Americans today.[/quote]

    What, exactly, did TBCT say in this thread that necessitated being placed on the “moderated” list? I don’t see any personal attacks. Unless there was some deleted comment I’m not seeing…

    Is passionate political commentary banned here every 9/11? If so, such a restriction should have been noted in the post itself.

  17. Thanks for the back-up tparty. The only argument I wanted to get into was wether the Iraq hearings should have been held this week. I agree with Genghis that some days it’s better to put the partisanship away.

  18. Having difficulty with so many posts/so little time?

    No problem. Just use profanity. It will make everyone notice YOUR posts…

  19. [quote post=”953″]If folks want to relive the entire morning, there’s always YouTube. As for people (like myself) who were within hearing and breathing distance of the entire event and it’s aftermath six years ago, I don’t think any of us need to relive the event viscerally just because we happen to be flipping channels looking for today’s Congressional hearings.[/quote]

    I couldn’t agree more. I have a personal policy of not turning on the TV on 9/11 for that reason.

  20. [quote comment=”18885″]Having difficulty with so many posts/so little time?

    No problem. Just use profanity. It will make everyone notice YOUR posts…[/quote]

    Genghis has used profanity in the comments section. So have I and many other commenters.

  21. What, exactly, did TBCT say in this thread that necessitated being placed on the “moderated” list? I don’t see any personal attacks. Unless there was some deleted comment I’m not seeing…

    Is passionate political commentary banned here every 9/11? If so, such a restriction should have been noted in the post itself.

    Not to answer your question with a question, but why are New Yorkers so much better grounded than the weird provincial 9/11 cultists that insist a new era began on that day?

    Loads of things kill thousands of people, this seems like an oddball choice for the superpatriots to rally around. Maybe we could sink all of our money into fighting cancer or providing healthcare for everyone or building anti-flooding infrastructure instead of, well, what we wound up doing.

    FWIW, TB got on the moderated list, and my comment was deleted outright. God bless America, home of the… er, moderate!

  22. Point made….point missed.
    Very few routinely use profanity here.

  23. [quote post=”953″]Not to answer your question with a question, but why are New Yorkers so much better grounded than the weird provincial 9/11 cultists that insist a new era began on that day?[/quote]

    It’s a good question actually. One I’ve wondered about for the past six years. It probably has something to do with actually experiencing the attack firsthand, rather than seeing it on television. The two experiences don’t even come close to being the same thing and I’ve always resented the notion that they are.

    9/11 didn’t change much at all. It didn’t change how Americans viewed one another. It didn’t change how we coped with tragedy. It didn’t make us better people. How I wish that it had. Then I could at least feel like some good came out of it.

    I don’t agree with TBCT’s view but the idea that he shouldn’t have said it in one of hundreds of thousands of “remember 9/11” threads littered across the internet is absolutely ludicrous.

  24. Okay, I overreacted a little, and TBCT is not on the mod list. Sorry about that. It may be some combination of the day, the weather and the general mood around here, but I and a lot of other people I know are seriously grumpy today.

  25. [quote comment=”18888″]Not to answer your question with a question, but why are New Yorkers so much better grounded than the weird provincial 9/11 cultists that insist a new era began on that day?[/quote]

    Perhaps because it was a such a terrifyingly personal tragedy for so many of us. We saw the fire and smoke, heard the screams and sirens, walked around with face-masks for days, smelled the odors for months, and passed by the makeshift memorials for years, only to see authoritarian fearmongers like Bush, Cheney, and Giuliani claim that day for themselves and their political agendas, in the run up to Iraq in 2002, the RNC – in the heart of OUR city – in 2004, the midterms of 2006, and now 2008.

    But whether we knew anyone in the towers or not, watching footage of that day is like watching a televised replay of the death of a loved one. Morbid and obscene.

  26. [quote comment=”18880″]Dobbster–

    I’m glad you found one soldier who remains confident about our prospects for success in Iraq. Hang on to that clipping, heck put it on your fridge if it makes you feel better.

    But for the record you should note that even Shays thinks our chances of success are but 1-in-4. (And if he says that, you’ve got to imagine he actually believes the odds are slimmer.)[/quote]

    That’s about right. You’ll take the quote of a war veteran and assume that he’s just “one soldier,” and instead believe that he has no idea what he’s talking about. I expected as much, and would have been shocked if you acknowledged that his qualified view of the war might possibly be correct.

    For the record, Penwell’s view of the war in Iraq matches that of every veteran whom I’ve spoken with regarding the war — of any race, of any gender, of any walk of life. Like I said, you can believe what you want — it’s a free country, due to people like Zak Penwell.

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