Rumor Open Forum

Update: Here are two more (juicy) Republican-centered rumors. Keep them coming at connecticutrumors at gmail dot com.

Sen. John Kissel will be appointed a judge or commissioner of public utilities bringing on a special election in the 7th. The rumor has been going around since mid-summer and the possible candidates would include George Colli and a certain Democratic State Rep. out of Enfield who worked not so silently against Colli allowing her to the opportunity to seek the office without risking her seat in the State House.

Senate Republicans are full of 2010 candidates–

1) John McKinney (R-Fairfield) may not run for Shay’s seat, and is instead considering a Senate run against Dodd.
2) Watch Scott Frantz (R-Greenwich)– he may be the “Ned Lamont” of the Republicans. Can self-finance a campaign for Senate or Congress.
3) Dan Debicella (R-Shelton) is considering a run for Treasurer or other constitutional office.
4) Len Fasano (R-North Haven) is considering a run for Third Congressional (if DeLauro is not running)
5) Sam Caligiuri (R-Waterbury) is considering a run for Fifth Congressional seat against Murphy

That’s like 50% of the Senate Republicans looking at higher offices!

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Has anyone else noticed the increase in rumors flying around? It’s like political junkies, with no actual election to talk about, are making up fantasy elections to talk about. To which I say, cool. Below are the whispers that I am hearing, utterly without reliable sourcing or, really, credibility. Please feel free to add your own in the comments (remember, this thread is for what you are hearing, not what you wish would happen). I know insiders read this blog – if you have rumors you want to pass along, email us at connecticutrumors at gmail dot com – I will post them without judgment, without name, and without color of credibility. I expect these will be totally contradictory (they already are!) and lots of fun…

Here is what I’m hearing:

Blumenthal will run for Governor and Nancy Wyman will run as his Lt. Governor. That will clear the way for Amman to gracefully exit the Governor’s race and run for Comptroller.

Blumenthal will not run for anything – not for Senate, not for Governor, not for A.G. Nothing.

This one may be obvious, given the below, but… Jodi Rell will face a serious primary challenge from the right.

And the tips are flowing in (anonymously) already:

Blumenthal and Lamont have a deal where one will run for Governor and the other will run for Senate. No word on which will run for which, or what Senate seat exactly.

This one seems almost silly (is there even a farm in the 3rd?), but I’ve heard it and then someone sent it in…

Rosa to be named Ag Secretary.

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30 responses to “Rumor Open Forum

  1. You don’t mention Dodd or Lieberman. Is your exclusion of their names to be taken as evidence that there are no rumors about either getting primaried as… in fact, they will be primaried and be gone from the national stage in 2 and 4 years??

    haha… just trying to start a rumor about your “insider knowledge” Gabe!

  2. Take it as evidence that I haven’t heard anything. I don’t think its going to far out on a limb to say that Lieberman will get a primary challenger, but I haven’t specifically heard that anywhere (probably because the election is 4 decades from now).

    As for Dodd, I haven’t heard a thing about a serious primary challenger, and I can’t imagine who that would even be…

  3. Of course I mean too. I miss preview.

  4. yeah… preview was useful. I also miss the Roman Thumbs. I always got a kick out of seeing entirely nonpartisan, factual statements getting a dozen thumbs down.

  5. Lieberman will almost certainly face a primary in 2012. The Connecticut for Lieberman party hates his guts!

    Amann as… comptroller? He will CRUSH anyone who meddles with his accounting methods!

  6. Preview was causing the site to explode. When and if I find another useful preview plugin (that works), I’ll put it back.

    The comment karma ate up an awful lot of CPU time.

  7. [quote comment=”38964″]You don’t mention Dodd or Lieberman.

    [/quote]

    Who?

  8. >>The comment karma ate up an awful lot of CPU time.

    NOTHING compared to multiple youtubes; crashed my old desktop so often I began using the laptop almost exclusively, but I hate that weenie keyboard so much I finally upgraded the desktop.

  9. At least YouTubes have some value

  10. [quote comment=”38973″]At least YouTubes have some value[/quote]
    You can just insert a hyperlink.

    [quote comment=”38970″]Preview was causing the site to explode. When and if I find another useful preview plugin (that works), I’ll put it back.
    [/quote]
    A Public Defender’s preview feature is cool — don’t know if that blog is based on the same platform or not.

    In lieu of a preview, could the poster delete their own comment?

    [quote comment=”38970″]
    The comment karma ate up an awful lot of CPU time.[/quote]
    I find myself musing what my comments would be ending up at Oh, that’s probably a negative five…

  11. Ichabod Crane

    [quote comment=”38970″]The comment karma ate up an awful lot of CPU time.[/quote]
    Who fed you this load of crap?

    Or were you just looking for an opportunity to remove the feature and the site crashing gave you that opportunity to remove it without controversy?

  12. [quote comment=”38974″]

    You can just insert a hyperlink.

    [/quote]

    That makes sense, but would require a logical thought process.

  13. Caligiuri might do well to stay home. Murphy won Waterbury by what, a 2 to 1 margin? And I don’t see Sam playing well in Northwest Connecticut.

    I don’t know what he brings to table that Cappiello didn’t have — and he’ll have vastly less support from the national party (remember Cappiello’s Bush fundraiser?), and less name recognition in district.

  14. [quote comment=”38983″]Caligiuri might do well to stay home. Murphy won Waterbury by what, a 2 to 1 margin? And I don’t see Sam playing well in Northwest Connecticut.

    I don’t know what he brings to table that Cappiello didn’t have — and he’ll have vastly less support from the national party (remember Cappiello’s Bush fundraiser?), and less name recognition in district.[/quote]

    Murphy won Waterbury because he ran against a lifelong Danbury native who publicly stabbed Waterbury’s favorite son in the back. That wasn’t forgotten on Nov. 4. Let’s not overlook the facts here, OK?

  15. Rosa has been outspoken for COOL (which is good) and for NAIS (which is really bad.)

    According to the recent news though, she’s not a contender.

  16. “1) John McKinney (R-Fairfield) may not run for Shay’s seat, and is instead considering a Senate run against Dodd.
    2) Watch Scott Frantz (R-Greenwich)– he may be the “Ned Lamont” of the Republicans. Can self-finance a campaign for Senate or Congress.”

    1) I would be surprised to see McKinney run against Jim Himes. The district is fed up with faux-centrist Republicans. The district has been adding Democrats steadily over the Bush years, and incumbency is likely to add substantially to Himes’ vote totals in 2010, even with the off-year dip in turnout.

    2) Shame on you for calling Frantz “the ‘Ned Lamont’ of the Republicans.” The only thing the two have in common is wealth. Ned Lamont stood up against a long-time powerful incumbent senator of the same party to challenge him on his shameful support for a senseless war. Ned Lamont proved himself a man of principal and courage who, by taking on Lieberman, directly challenged his party’s leadership. Scott Frantz, on the other hand, is a major Bush supporter who closed his eyes to Bush’s rape of America’s international reputation, who didn’t raise a peep of protest when Bush savaged America’s legal system, who didn’t raise a word of protest when Bush and Rove used bigotry against Gays to gain re-election in 2004. No, Scott Frantz never even ran for office until his party’s right-wing leadership handed him the safe Greenwich senate seat on a silver platter.

    Perhaps this shows how Democrats and Republicans are different, and why the Republican Party in New England continues to shrivel and die. Democratic candidates actually stand for something; Republicans just mouth inanities about “lower taxes”, while destroying the country’s economy.

    Don’t think that Republican financial types on the Gold Coast will automatically vote for Frantz or McKinney after Republican rule has brought about the worst stockmarket performance since the Great Depression. They’re smarter than that.

  17. Sen. John Kissel will be appointed a judge or commissioner of public utilities bringing on a special election in the 7th. The rumor has been going around since mid-summer and the possible candidates would include George Colli and a certain Democratic State Rep. out of Enfield who worked not so silently against Colli allowing her to the opportunity to seek the office without risking her seat in the State House.
    That’s a pretty good one. If this were to happen, and the certain state rep was to actually win that special election, then there’d be ANOTHER special election in a certain part of Enfield where I may or may not live. I can think of at least one person who would be running, too.

    Could end up making municipal elections a lot more interesting, depending on who gets bumped up.

    This rumor thread is a lot of fun!

  18. [quote comment=”38969″]Lieberman will almost certainly face a primary in 2012. The Connecticut for Lieberman party hates his guts![/quote]

    Heh heh…seriously, how the hell is Joe Lieberman supposed to show up at the Democratic state convention in four years and expect to hear nothing but boos and catcalls? Unless he goes through some kind of other-worldly metamorphosis or something, he’ll be heckled mercilessly at the convention.

    (I’m already planning on attending!)

  19. [quote comment=”38983″]Murphy won Waterbury by what, a 2 to 1 margin?
    [/quote]

    Sam would carry his own city – make no mistake about that.

    However I doubt he’s interested in going to DC.

    [quote]

    I don’t know what he brings to table that Cappiello didn’t have

    [/quote]

    His own set of balls for starters; a helluva lot better reputation, and a word & handshake that’s worth something.

  20. [quote comment=”38989″]

    Don’t think

    [/quote]

    That’s increasingly obvious.

  21. [quote comment=”38990″]Sen. John Kissel will be appointed a judge or commissioner of public utilities bringing on a special election in the 7th. The rumor has been going around since mid-summer and the possible candidates would include George Colli and a certain Democratic State Rep. out of Enfield who worked not so silently against Colli allowing her to the opportunity to seek the office without risking her seat in the State House.
    That’s a pretty good one. If this were to happen, and the certain state rep was to actually win that special election, then there’d be ANOTHER special election in a certain part of Enfield where I may or may not live. I can think of at least one person who would be running, too.

    Could end up making municipal elections a lot more interesting, depending on who gets bumped up.

    This rumor thread is a lot of fun![/quote]

    It’s the DPUC for Kissel, not a judgeship, at least from what I have been hearing.

    As for the 7th, does anyone think the R’s would let a safe seat go without a fight, especially when they hold so few? Not a chance. Word on the street is that both Mayor Scott Kaupin and Councilman Bill Lee have expressed interest in running when Kissel leaves. Could make for an interesting internal race even before a special election.

    On the other side, who says Jarmoc gets the nod? (I feel pretty safe in saying that is the Rep you were talking about) While Colli didn’t win, he worked his butt off and has a strong argument for the nod to be his. And what about Bill Kiner? Anyone know if he would have interest after 2 very close losses to Kissel?

    And what would that do to municipal landscape? Who knows.

    Definetly one to watch!

  22. famillionaire

    I could definitely see Kissel getting a judgeship, but not Chair of the DPUC. This is an extremely important position which requires a great deal of specific and technical knowledge about energy issues and Kissel is lacking there. That’s not a shot against him, it’s just not his expertise.

    One only need look at his opposition to bringing a biodiesel facility to Suffield and his opposition to cleaning up the Sooty Six to see that he will have built in opposition during the usually-chummy legislator-ascension process.

    If there is a special, the party with the most discipline wins. My guess is there would be one Republican in the race that is weaker than any of the 2, 3 or 4 Democrats, but would walk into office based on party-splitting.

    As for Frantz moving up, I seriously doubt that move. A federal election would bring out too much information about his transgressions as a youngster and too much scrutiny of his hedge fund dealings and millions. Beside that, I can’t imagine him being able to show the swing voters who kept Shays in office (or the swing voters statewide if he ran for senate) that he “feels their pain.” While his self-funding may seem like a promising notion, as a Republican it will bite him in the arse and play into the ‘rich, white, privileged republican’ stereotype.

    IMHO, McKinney, however is the most talented, smart, politically astute person in the CT Republican party today, with Len Fasano as a close second. Both Sam and Dan have a long way to go and a lot of line to jump if the state R’s think anyone has a real shot at any of the higher offices. Without a Republican President, a Ross Garberesque loss for higher office means career-over.

  23. [quote post=”2398″]As for the 7th, does anyone think the R’s would let a safe seat go without a fight, especially when they hold so few? Not a chance. Word on the street is that both Mayor Scott Kaupin and Councilman Bill Lee have expressed interest in running when Kissel leaves. Could make for an interesting internal race even before a special election.

    On the other side, who says Jarmoc gets the nod? (I feel pretty safe in saying that is the Rep you were talking about) While Colli didn’t win, he worked his butt off and has a strong argument for the nod to be his. And what about Bill Kiner? Anyone know if he would have interest after 2 very close losses to Kissel?[/quote]
    Both Bill Lee and Scott Kaupin would be strong candidates.

    I’d be pretty surprised if Bill Kiner came back, but if Colli and Jarmoc faced each other at a convention, I’m guessing Enfield support would win it for Jarmoc.

  24. [quote comment=”38999″]I could definitely see Kissel getting a judgeship, but not Chair of the DPUC. This is an extremely important position which requires a great deal of specific and technical knowledge about energy issues and Kissel is lacking there. That’s not a shot against him, it’s just not his expertise.[/quote]

    Not Kissel’s expertise? His employer – Northeast Utilities – may want to recheck his resume. And regarding special elections, I don’t think the D’s have won one since public financing came into play.

  25. Weicker Liker

    Sentator Kissel is much too valuable to the Republican Caucus in the State Senate.

    I think these rumors are bogus.

  26. Orrin Thompson

    [quote comment=”39004″]Sentator Kissel is much too valuable to the Republican Caucus in the State Senate.

    I think these rumors are bogus.[/quote]

    Here in Enfield, word on the street has it that Kissel will be out in the next three months.

    Don’t count out Pat Tallarita. Story has it that he wants to come back and run for State Senate.

    That story about Jarmoc backstabbing Colli is true… anyone who was at the polls that day could tell you that.

    With what she’s done to Colli, she’s not the shoo-in that she was six months ago. There are a lot of people pissed off with her.

    If the Jarmoc seat opens up, Cindy Mangini, Ken Hillinski and possibly David Kiner will run for it.

  27. Orrin….

    I am hearing that John Kissel will stay in the State Senate.

    My sources indicated that assured those in the leadership of the GOP that he is committed to serving.

  28. [quote post=”2398″]If the Jarmoc seat opens up, Cindy Mangini, Ken Hillinski and possibly David Kiner will run for it. [/quote]

    Isn’t David Kiner a state employee? Can he even run if that’s the case – without giving up his “real job” that is.

  29. Sure, why not?

    I don’t think anyone would be forboden from running unless they were serving on an ethics or similar govenance board.

    I believe I may have read a state statute to that affect at some point. Otherwise, I’d think its your Constitutional right to run unless specifically forbidden by law.

  30. I don’t believe there is a problem with him running for office. He would though have to resign his position if elected.

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