Catholics Protest in Hartford

Something on the order of 3,500 to 4,000 Catholics rallied outside the state capitol today in protest of a proposed law that would have allowed changes in that church’s administrative structures.

The proposal had already been withdrawn on Tuesday, but that didn’t stop people from showing up in force anyway.

The bill itself, which Judiciary Committee co-chairs Mike Lawlor and Andrew McDonald say was proposed by–and later asked to be withdrawn by–parishioners at a Darien church, was probably unconstitutional. I’m surprised it was ever raised, though in retrospect it isn’t surprising that the leaders of the Catholic Church reacted as strongly as they did.

This, if nothing else, demonstrates what a potent force the Catholic Church can still be in Connecticut. Think about it. What other group could have arranged for 4,000 protesters to descend on the state capitol on three days’ notice?

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18 responses to “Catholics Protest in Hartford

  1. Were they all from Connecticut?

  2. It also shows what’s important to Catholics and what gets them out to speak their minds. Were gay marriage opponents ever able to organize that many people on three days notice?

  3. Impressive display indeed.

  4. It also shows what’s important to Catholics and what gets them out to speak their minds. Were gay marriage opponents ever able to organize that many people on three days notice?

    Very good point. I don’t think they get this many for anti-abortion rallies, either.

  5. Tom Van Stone

    Just imagine if the bill HADN’T been pulled. I know I likely would have been there as well as dozens of other just from my parish.

  6. This, if nothing else, demonstrates what a potent force the Catholic Church can still be in Connecticut. Think about it. What other group could have arranged for 4,000 protesters to descend on the state capitol on three days’ notice?

    I’d say a state labor union could get that many people out if their contract r their retirement or their health care coverage or something like that was threatened.

    I bet if you introduced an unconstitutional law that would radically alter the way the Congregational Church could organize, you’d get 5,000 people to turn out.

    I’ld even venture that if you introduced some legislation about the Mormon church that would really alter their structure, you’d get 5,000 people.

    As for other groups, you could get 5,000 opponents if you tried to pass something that would really affect people significantly. Many people take their religion seriously. I read that CT is about 38% Catholic, so that’s over 1 million. Now many or most of those are probably C&E Catholics (Christmas and Easter) but even still, if only 20% are really observant, that’s over 200,000.

    This was a dumb bill.

  7. Maybe they feel strongly about the US Constitution, too.

  8. I’m impressed by how they got so many people out there on such short notice, even AFTER the bill had been pulled!

    No wonder Opie & Anthony got thrown off the air in 2002 after their little stunt in St. Pat’s!

  9. Stockhom Syndrome is an simple explantion and no one knows what each demonstrator understood about the bill – or even about the legal status of their church. When you have a group of people who believe that a small group of men, in dresses, control their access to a hereafter you get racks, auto de feys, mass killings, child abuse , etc etc.
    What is interesting about this affair is the fact that two very original legislators brought the entire issue out in a way that would never have happened even a few years ago. Perhaps they also read a recent study that shows “religion ” playing a smaller part in New Englanders lives every year. That trend will increase as the older catholics die off and are not replaced. Understand that many catholics are sympathetic to this issue
    but chose , as would be expected, to stand up . In any case now we can be assured that the church is going to be forced to accept more financial controls and review – they cannot afford now to have another thief priest- .

  10. In any case now we can be assured that the church is going to be forced to accept more financial controls and review – they cannot afford now to have another thief priest- .

    And that, my friends, is the ultimate end game by these “two very original legislators” (your opinion Curious). Let’s get everyone riled up, get people to make the “separation of Church and State” argument, pull the bill…then say “you’re right”….and now we must eliminate all references to any religions in our Statutes. The end result is all religions are now subject to more scrutiny and to the corporation laws. That is called a good ol’ fashioned “backdooring.”

    One problem….after sticking it to the church on gay rights and plan b…they underestimated their opposition. If you think 5,000 was alot….try to eliminate all the religions…you will get 40,000 easy. It will be like the 1991 income tax rally all over again.

  11. McDonald and Lawlor clearly failed in conducting their own political due dilgence and have now been targeted , so watching any challenge will be the real political test.

    Of course, they now get state police drivers, a la Fedele.

  12. If you think 5,000 was alot….try to eliminate all the religions…you will get 40,000 easy. It will be like the 1991 income tax rally all over again.

    The Joe Markley / Tom Scott, AXE THE TAX rally drew an estimated 65,000.

    However, try some other dumb stunt with *any* church and I suspect double that would appear as if by magic….and with tar & feathers.

    . In any case now we can be assured that the church is going to be forced to accept more financial controls and review

    According to some high ranking Catholic official (I’m sorry, I can’t keep their titles straight) a mandatory financial review committee is already in place (a relatively new development) in every parish.

  13. McDonald and Lawlor clearly failed in conducting their own political due dilgence and have now been targeted , so watching any challenge will be the real political test.

    I wouldn’t be too surprised if one or both of them found themselves in a primary to keep their seats either.

  14. Think about it. What other group could have arranged for 4,000 protesters to descend on the state capitol on three days’ notice?

    Only one other – the NRA.

  15. “””If you think 5,000 was alot….try to eliminate all the religions…you will get 40,000 easy. It will be like the 1991 income tax rally all over again.”””
    Thank you for illustrating by point regarding the essential ignorance of this ” religious ” issue. It is about the MONEY not the landing place of your souls that is the issue here. No one is trying to tell anyone who to pray to or how

  16. Thank you for illustrating by point regarding the essential ignorance of this ” religious ” issue. It is about the MONEY not the landing place of your souls that is the issue here. No one is trying to tell anyone who to pray to or how

    It’s about both actually. Neither you, nor the government, have the right to dictate how the Catholic Church should be run. You cannot separate the two because the 1st amendment isn’t conditional, it either applies or it doesn’t.

  17. The irony hearing from the church, “What about justice for all don’t they get?” is ridiculous. Isn’t one of the bills they’re protesting on that flier a gay marriage bill? What about justice for all don’t THEY get? Ridiculous.

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