Legalize It?

Buried in the Quinnipiac Poll which showed Chris Dodd and Rob Simmons essentially tied was this little nugget:

25. There is a proposal in the state legislature that would decriminalize possession of small amounts of marijuana. Low-level marijuana users would be punished with a fine, instead of a criminal charge. Do you think this is a good idea or a bad idea?
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Good idea – 58%
Bad idea – 37%

The whole concept of legalizing certain drugs, or at least decriminalizing possession, is quietly starting to pick up steam. Massachusetts voters approved a similar measure, which would punish possession of small amount of marijuana with a fine instead of jail time. Even publications as august as the Economist have been making the case for legalizing certain drugs. There seems to be a growing consensus that the drug policies the United States has been following for years has not been particularly effective, and that a new direction is necessary.

Here is the current bill.

The poll also showed support for allowing liquor stores to stay open on Sundays.

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26 responses to “Legalize It?

  1. Paging Ken Krayeske! 🙂

  2. Bruce Rubenstein

    pot should be legalized…and booze should be sold sundays…and prostitution should be legalized…..all should be taxed.

  3. Decriminalized when in small amounts? Perhaps. Legalized? No way. It will be one more thing that the pharmaceutical and insurance companies take advantage of to make a profit at the expense of the sick and poor.

  4. AndersonScooper

    Bruce, how much do you charge per hour? 😉

  5. AndersonScooper

    PS– I heard today that there was talk about inviting Lieberpuke to the Dems’ JJB dinner this year. (And that’s why the date and soeaker haven’t been announced.)

    Here’s hoping Kronholm and the Chairwoman won’t make such a dumb move, and realize there is no detente possible.

  6. famillionaire

    Decriminalized when in small amounts? Perhaps. Legalized? No way. It will be one more thing that the pharmaceutical and insurance companies take advantage of to make a profit at the expense of the sick and poor.

    The pharmaceutical industry is a major opponent of legalizing marijuana because it is an easily cultivated crop with clear medicinal use. It would actually be an extremely cheap, safer, non-addictive medicine for millions of Americans instead of wasting tens of millions of dollars chasing and prosecuting so many grandmas and grandpas, AIDS patients, cancer suffers and those wit a whole host of other ailments.

    Anyone making an argument against legalizing, heavily and strictly regulating it and heavily taxing it needs to think and first ask themselves if they are making the exact same argument against smoking, alcohol, fatty foods, sodas, and other pharmaceuticals. Then please state whether you are for criminalizing those as well.

  7. pot should be legalized

    Nope – de-criminalized and keep the government out of it altogether. They’ll just make mess, they always do.

    booze should be sold Sundays

    Only if they’re required to close one day a week of their choice.

    We made a mess out of our liquor regs too long ago to “fix it” without screwing the hell out of a lot of small family run businesses.
    Why on earth would we want to drive mom & pop businesses out?
    Makes no sense.

    .all should be taxed.

    There you go again.

  8. yes lets just legalize for the purpose of making things easier for all and to raise tax revenues. We can make rape a misdemeanor and fine the rapist $10,000….and than we can legalize murder and just fine the perpetrator $50,000….think of the revenues we could raise whiel reducing the cost of lengthy trials…..

    My point…..anyone who thinks that we should legalize marijuana and prostitution believes immorality it basically okay. They also have never learned from history, the fate of nations who fell to immorality and greed….no…legalizing isnt acceptable….

  9. My point…..anyone who thinks that we should legalize marijuana and prostitution believes immorality it basically okay. They also have never learned from history, the fate of nations who fell to immorality and greed….no…legalizing isnt acceptable….

    So you disagree with the late Conservative Wm. F. Buckley?

    Okay, but I can’t recall anyone calling him “immoral” before.

  10. Bruce Rubenstein

    Anderson…$500. an hour

  11. Bruce Rubenstein

    My Good Libertarian friend ACR…..If we taxed pot and prostitution….we would prolly knock the hell out of the deficit…..along with selling booze on sunday….As to prostitution…the state could force them to get a screwing license and pay a permit or certificate fee..as well as any state certified house of assignation…and regular doctor checkups…which they dont do now…As to pot…the state can issue it…and check it for impurities…the state could license pot shops…like tabacco shops where they would pay a permit fee to operate….and there would be a tax per purchase.

  12. Bruce Rubenstein

    Anderson….Lieberman is dead in our party….I certainly wouldnt pay to hear him….he has betrayed us…

  13. Cheshire Ram

    Legalize it.

  14. the state could force them to get a screwing license

    Do you think the state could take the competition Bruce?

    Let’s face it, when it comes to screwing the public it’s pretty tough to try to beat the state at it’s own game.

  15. “As to prostitution…the state could force them to get a screwing license and pay a permit or certificate fee”

    “As to pot…the state can issue it…and check it for impurities…the state could license pot shops…like tabacco shops where they would pay a permit fee to operate….and there would be a tax per purchase”

    At first I though, well just another typical liberal set of ideas……Then I saw the true brilliance in this thinking. Instead of spending a fortune fighting this sort of stuff the General Assembly can turn it into a legal business. Then just like any other business in this state the General Assembly will find a way to put it out of business.

    Of course probably not before the prostitutes have been unionized and stopped “working” anyway.

  16. The immorality argument doesn’t fly when you consider what is legal already.

  17. Bruce Rubenstein

    I assure you all there are far less prostitutes on the street then in the LOB during the day….

  18. I think there’s a much bigger issue here that should be addressed by Obama.

    The FDA overregulates. For instance, my (asthma) inhaler is by prescription. Why? Cuz I could kill myself with it? But how many OTC drugs could do that? Seems to me that Obama could drastically reduce the cost of healthcare in America by simply deregulating a lot of the drugs that are currently regulated. That would reduce the amount of time required for highly qualified physicians and pharmacists… in turn, reducing the overall cost of drugs… at least that’s how it strikes me without having researched the topic.

  19. There is a proposal in the state legislature that would decriminalize possession of small amounts of marijuana. Low-level marijuana users would be punished with a fine, instead of a criminal charge

    Punishing with a fine people possessing small amounts of pot is not legalizing it. And if it’s still a crime, how would you tax it?

  20. The FDA over regulates. For instance, my (asthma) inhaler is by prescription. Why?

    Why?

    Corruption, payoffs, you name it.
    The FDA is up to it’s neck in “pay as you go” approvals and has been for longer than you’ve been alive.

    The FDA tied the inhaler up for a few years despite it being widespread in the rest of the free world for over a decade prior to it’s introduction to the United States in 1972.
    (Someone finally wised up and paid the right people, no doubt about it.)

    My sister Nancy died of respiratory arrest in 1971 at age 26 in the throes of an asthma attack.
    She was over the back of an easy chair, her pocketbook on the seat with a syringe into her bottle of adrenilain, then the only fast stop to an attack.
    She didn’t make it to injection, as she had so many times before.
    The inhaler would have saved her.

    My poor brother-in-law, older than she was and a 30 year police officer, died 21 years later crazy as a loon. He never got over my sister.

    The FDA is worthless, and they murdered my sister.

    Nothing they do couldn’t be done better by trade groups, and with a lot less systemic corruption.

    God only knows we graduate enough lawyers in this country.

    Should some pharmaceutical company introduce something with a “problem”; it wouldn’t be a problem for long before scores of under-employed attorneys were all over it.

  21. Great thread. My only complaint is directed at ACR. Please stop posting comments I agree with. You’re freaking me out man.

  22. Please stop posting comments I agree with. You’re freaking me out man.

    You’re finding that you’ve aligned yourself with those that wish to control everything and just now coming to that realization aren’t you?

    Those that labor under the delusion that Sean Hannity (etc. & et al) represents the Republican Party are simply mistaken.

    There exist as many libertarian/Republicans and social-conservative/Republicans.
    That we tend to keep our in-fighting off the news creates confusion for the casual observer.
    Especially those with pre-conceived notions.

    Instead we try to forge coalitions; as a pro-choice Republican I can certainly work for a pro-life candidate if he or she supports the 2nd Ammendment for example.

    One need only to look at 87% liberal voting record Joe Lieberman to see what failure to march in lockstep with the party will cost.

    The Republican Party has the bigger tent and certainly trusts “the government” a lot less.

  23. There exist as many libertarian/Republicans and social-conservative/Republicans.

    true, true!

    I still believe that while my guy, Ron Paul, got very few votes in the early GOP primaries… he had huge numbers of “closet sympathizers” within the party.

  24. As for the FDA… I’ve traveled to about 50 or 60 countries in different regions of the world. For the most part, you don’t need prescriptions… yet somehow their societies function.

  25. As for the FDA… I’ve traveled to about 50 or 60 countries in different regions of the world. For the most part, you don’t need prescriptions… yet somehow their societies function.

    Not sure if societal function is the best argument to make here. Lots of really whacked out stuff happened in previous years, yet the societies functioned. Doctors would put leeches on sick people, we had lead paint everywhere, there were zero pollution or contamination controls, etc. And there wasn’t a breakdown in society. It takes a lot to stop societal function. I’m sure if we repealed all drunk driving laws, society would continue to function, but repealing all DWI laws would not be a good thing.

    You can make arguments against some aspects of the FDA, certainly, in it takes too long to get a drug approved. But make those argument on their own merits, not on societal function…

  26. fair enough… and my statement was short because my underlying argument is completely valid – the FDA overregulates.

    Don’t get me wrong, there can be very bad outcomes (thalidomide). But they unnecessarily regulate the stuff for decades.

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