Joe Says No to Public Option

Democratic U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman told the New Haven Independent that he is a “no” on health care reform initiatives that include a government-sponsored option as part of the package:

“If we create a public option, the public is going to end up paying for it,” Lieberman said following an hour-long confab with public-health experts at the Ashmun Street community center of the Monterey Homes public housing complex. “That’s a cost we can’t take on.”

The article goes on to reveal that Sen. Lieberman has been working with a bipartisan group of Senators over the past several weeks to hammer out a deal on health care reform.  Lieberman says that there is no common ground to be found regarding the “public option”.

“We’re not going to get the votes to pass the overall bill if [the public option] becomes a condition of it,” Lieberman claimed.

Though it has been Sen. Chris Dodd who has received all the attention in the health care debate, Lieberman’s efforts to broker a deal may well be more important to than those of Mr. Dodd.

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19 responses to “Joe Says No to Public Option

  1. AndersonScooper

    Joe Lieberman as a pivotal part of the Stop Obama team? Is this possibly the same guy who Senator Dodd said should be welcomed back into the Democratic family?

  2. Though it has been Sen. Chris Dodd who has received all the attention in the health care debate, Lieberman’s efforts to broker a deal may well be more important to than those of Mr. Dodd.

    If by “broker a deal” you mean “work to kill health care reform like he did in 1993 and in the 16 years since”, then I guess you are correct.

    And of course his current efforts would seem “more important” to someone who, like him, is more interested in killing health care reform than in passing it.

  3. I think most people, like Lieberman, would like to see a plan that (A) actually happens and (B) actually works.

    At the moment, given the radical right-wing views espoused by the Congressional Budget Office, neither seems likely.

  4. Joe Lieberman as a pivotal part of the Stop Obama team? Is this possibly the same guy who Senator Dodd said should be welcomed back into the Democratic family?

    He’s a 60th vote for cloture. He’s of more value voting with us procedurally than not, regardless of his policy views. That’s a fact.

  5. Joe Lieberman as a pivotal part of the Stop Obama team? Is this possibly the same guy who Senator Dodd said should be welcomed back into the Democratic family?

    I hope he’s a part of the “Stop Killing the Economy” team. If so, he’ll help to defeat the “public option” and that stupid “climate change” bill from last week. I also hope he’s a part of the “Stop Suppressing Science” team:

    http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/01/gop-says-epa-official-buried-critical-global-warmi/?feat=home_headlines

  6. AndersonScooper

    You don’t understand. Allowing Lieberman to wear a “D”, even an “ID”, after his name gives the shit-head cover to pull this kind of crap.

    Throw him out of the friggin’ Dem caucus, and let the press refer to him as disgraced, traiterous and ex-communicated.

    If Lieberman doesn’t want to be part of Team Obama, (as he pretended he did, btw), he deserves the heave-ho. Period.

  7. If Lieberman doesn’t want to be part of Team Obama, (as he pretended he did, btw), he deserves the heave-ho. Period.

    Even when Team Obama buys car manufacturers and hands them to the UAW? Even when Team Obama tries to kill the economy and health care in one fell swoop? Even when Team Obama backs dictators over democracy? Even when Team Obama suppresses science and tries to jam job-killing “climate change” bills down our throats?

    You’d expect Lieberman to roll over and play dead, regardless? Really?

  8. AndersonScooper

    Dobbs, are you for real? Sometimes I think you’re the fabrication of a left-wing blogger, trying to make the other side appear bat-shit crazy.

    And by all means keep spewing the lies and hate about Obama. 30% of the country is with you!

  9. 1. Obama fired GM’s CEO and then committed billions to GM and Chrysler, screwing creditors in the process, instead of letting the bankruptcy courts do their job. True or false?
    2. Obama handed giant shares of each of these companies to the UAW. True or false?
    3. Obama’s health care plan will add trillions to his projected $10 trillion deficit. True or false?
    4. Obama turned his back on the Iranian protest movement. True or false?
    5. Obama is trying to force “climate change” bills on us despite the fact that the planet’s temperature has gone down over the last ten years, and there is growing worldwide opposition to the theory of “global warming” caused by “greenhouse gases.” True or false?

    The man is desperately trying to lose the 2012 election, one stupid decision at a time.

  10. “Dobbs, are you for real? Sometimes I think you’re the fabrication of a left-wing blogger, trying to make the other side appear bat-shit crazy.”

    Pot, meet kettle.

    Except, of course, in PoopyScoopy’s case you’d have to make it “right-wing” and add “hypocritical, illiterate and blindly partisan” …

  11. Thomas Hooker

    Dobbs, are you for real?

    Anderson, just don’t bother with these ignorant right-wing morons anymore. They’re as dumb as the day is long, and even meaner than that. Time to leave them to the tin-hat crowd.

    And Sarah, you’re far too good and intelligent to be associated with these slimeballs anymore. Time for a class act like you to bolt. Leave it to the right-wing nutjobs here.

    Time for decent people to call this site what it is: another right-wing sleaze website for the crazies.

  12. wtfdnucsailor

    Folks, Lets stick to the issues, not the personalities. While I think that the current administration is taking proper steps in digging the country out of the hole left it by the previous administration, I know that there are other people that feel this adminstration is leading the country down the primrose path to ruin. A healthy discussion of that disagreement is perfectly legitimate and what makes this site interesting and educational. Lets keep the discussion and cross talk at that level. Thanks.

  13. Tony Stark

    Folks, Lets stick to the issues, not the personalities. While I think that the current administration is taking proper steps in digging the country out of the hole left it by the previous administration, I know that there are other people that feel this adminstration is leading the country down the primrose path to ruin. A healthy discussion of that disagreement is perfectly legitimate and what makes this site interesting and educational. Lets keep the discussion and cross talk at that level. Thanks.

    Here, here, although I think it is funny that you characterize the current administration digging us out of “hole left it by the previous administration” when, in fact, they have dug the hole much, much deeper!

    I would like AndersonScooper to address Dobbs’ specific points. Just would like to hear those comments.

  14. Tony Stark

    The best part of the whole conversation re: Bush v. Obama is that there really isn’t much of a difference between the two administrations with respect to policy, except that this administration has doubled down on the previous administrations policies. It’s crazy. Bank and car bailouts? Check. Detainees? Check. Iraq/Afghanistan? Check. Deficit spending? Check.

  15. Anderson, just don’t bother with these ignorant right-wing morons anymore. They’re as dumb as the day is long, and even meaner than that. Time to leave them to the tin-hat crowd.

    And Sarah, you’re far too good and intelligent to be associated with these slimeballs anymore. Time for a class act like you to bolt. Leave it to the right-wing nutjobs here.

    What was moronic about questioning the constitutionality of Obama’s actions with regard to GM and Chrysler? What was mean about pointing out that Obama didn’t want to “meddle” in Iran’s elections (when he certainly wants to “meddle” with Europe’s economies and with Israel’s settlements)? What was dumb about pointing out the EPA’s suppression of science, or the growing opposition to the concept of “global warming”?

    It’s funny, the two of you expect everyone to bow down to “Team Obama” because he’s such a popular person, yet you bash everything Jodi Rell does, and she’s more popular than Obama has ever been! (His popularity certainly won’t rise when unemployment cracks 10%, by the way.)

  16. Moderated for having the nerve to respond to Thomas’s and Ed’s nonsense? Check.

  17. AndersonScooper

    Stark, do you, Dobbs, and your GOP really think that the best way out of the recession would have been to do nothing?

    Insane.

    President Obama has done an admirable job of keeping the economy safe from what might have been a disaster.

    Sure, we’re still in a hole, and it’s going to take a while to pay the bill, but far better than a second Great Depression.

  18. Stark, do you, Dobbs, and your GOP really think that the best way out of the recession would have been to do nothing?

    No. Definitely not. I will tell you, however, that TARP, buying car companies and giving them to the unions, and the “stimulus” bill have done absolutely nothing for the economy to date. Nothing.

    What, exactly, has Obama done to “keep[] the economy safe from what might have been a disaster”? This is a serious question: what has he done? Sure, he’s a likable guy, and it certainly means something when a country likes its leader, but what exactly has he done to help the economy?

    I’m not being mean, moronic or hateful, or any of those things Thomas said I was, but these are serious questions: how has the economy improved on Obama’s watch? How have we avoided “disaster”?

  19. Tony Stark

    Stark, do you, Dobbs, and your GOP really think that the best way out of the recession would have been to do nothing?

    Maybe, maybe not, I am just saying that Bush and Obama have basically the same policies with the only difference being that Obama has doubled-down on them.

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