Theatre of the Absurd

The lede from a Hartford Courant story this morning.

After disagreeing for nearly six months, Republican Gov. M. Jodi Rell and the legislature finally agreed Friday on the size of the state’s projected budget deficit for the next two years

Great news, except that it’s about seven months overdue, especially considering that the new fiscal year started four weeks ago and local communities have had to finalize their budgets in the Spring. Meanwhile, Rome burns.

This would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic. No heros (or leaders) in this saga.

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51 responses to “Theatre of the Absurd

  1. Of course, what is really absurd is that Jodi Rell vetoed the legislation that forced them to come up with this number!

    If it wasn’t for the legislature overriding her veto, we wouldn’t have this come to this agreement, which unfortunately has been one of the biggest reasons for the stalled budget talks. Can someone explain to me why she vetoed it again and why all of the Republicans opposed it?

  2. Also, it was announced that the Dems are going to present a revised budget next week.

    I’m still very confused about why the R’s objected to badly to that budget forecasting legislation. From what I can tell, all it did was require OPM & OFA to agree on what the budget deficit is, and it also set deadlines for when new budget proposals have to be unveiled. Why would someone object to that?

  3. Who cares gear guy (other than you). Now that the deficit has been agreed to, it’s time to start cutting the size of government without increasing taxes, right gear guy?

    At least you and I can agree on that!

  4. In Brenda’s book, when the R’s are wrong about something you just toss it to the side and say, “Who cares about what got us here, lets look forward.”

  5. No gear guy, the Republicans were NOT “wrong” about opposing that bill but that’s not the issue here with the original post.

    The issue here is that the deficit number has been agreed to and all you want to do is to is continue your partisan whining which no one cares about (other than you).

    You are right though when you say “Who cares about what got us here, lets (sic) look forward” because it’s irrelevant, isn’t it? Does it REALLY matter anymore? No, it doesn’t.

    As I said earlier, I think it’s great that everyone has agreed what the deficit really is which means we have to make more cuts to government than the Governor originally thought.

    That will make you whine even more than before! Bye bye to all the crap we can’t afford that you lefties insist we can’t live without.

  6. Because our “leaders” were delinquent in coming up with a budget during their regular session, how much special session money is this costing the deaf and dumb CT taxpayers when you factor in ALL hidden cost?

    Anybody know the real answer?

  7. The Democrats want full time pay and a full time legislature.

    There’s more to this budget stall than getting an agreement.

    http://www.everydayrepublican.com/2008/06/26/caruso/

    The deficit estimate is Executive Branch versus Legislative Branch politics. The super-majority has gone after several Executive Branch duties (such as the appointment of Senators rather than Special elections).

    It’s the type of legislation that gets a knee jerk veto. The same thing happens in DC. It’s not about the merits of the proposal it’s about undermining a branch of government and gets vetoed or buried on the floor. It’s a ceremonial jab in most cases.

  8. Who cares gear guy (other than you). Now that the deficit has been agreed to, it’s time to start cutting the size of government without increasing taxes, right gear guy?

    Yes, this is the very best time to gut programs that would help the small businesses and families that are the backbone of Connecticut survive the recession. For the thousands who are losing their homes to foreclosures – no housing. For the low income women desperate to hold on to their jobs or find new ones – no child care. For the entrepreneurs who would start new business and create but can’t because they’d have no health coverage – squat. Yesiree – that’ll get the people of Connecticut back earning and producing and paying taxes. Sign ME up for the program that’s gone!

  9. No gear guy, the Republicans were NOT “wrong” about opposing that bill but that’s not the issue here with the original post.

    Yes, it IS the issue!

    Sorry, but if the Democrats did not override Rell’s veto, we would NOT HAVE an agreement about what the deficit is!

    That is pure fact and should be acknowledged.

  10. Yes, this is the very best time to gut programs that would help the small businesses and families that are the backbone of Connecticut survive the recession. For the thousands who are losing their homes to foreclosures – no housing. For the low income women desperate to hold on to their jobs or find new ones – no child care. For the entrepreneurs who would start new business and create but can’t because they’d have no health coverage – squat. Yesiree – that’ll get the people of Connecticut back earning and producing and paying taxes. Sign ME up for the program that’s gone!

    Yes, this is the very best time to gut costly senseless welfare programs that give irresponsible people money that they never should have had in the first place.

    If someone got in over their head and agreed to borrow more money for a mortgage than they have the ability to pay back, why should my tax dollars go to a mortgage assistance program to “bail them out?” Let the bank take their house back and let them live in an apartment or a smaller house that they can actually afford. Meanwhile, most of these people still have cell phones, cable television, high speed internet and drive newer cars than I’ve ever had in my life. On top ofthat some of them have lots of nice toys like motorcycles, ATVs, jet skis, snowmobiles and campers too!

    If someone chose to have children why should I have to pay for their daycare? I chose not to have children because I couldn’t afford it and I never expected the government to pay for my childcare.

    Health insurance is a normal business expense for a small business. If someone wants to start a small business then he or she needs to PAY THEIR OWN HEALTH INSURANCE PREMUIMS, why should I? Tell ya what jimmy d, if you and I agree to subsidize this small business with our tax dollars to buy his health insurance, will he share the profits with us? If someone can’t be profitable with their business then shut it down and stop losing money.

    You’re absolutely 100% RIGHT jimmy d, this IS th very best time to gut (welfare) programs that are driving this state into the ground and turning it into a welfare state! Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

  11. Brenda is a typical do-nothing, help-nobody Republican. She believes in the myth of the welfare queens. They do not exist.

    http://www.amazon.com/MYTH-WELFARE-QUEEN-PRIZE-WINNING-JOURNALISTS/dp/0684840065

  12. I chose not to have children because I couldn’t afford it .

    Brenda,

    I am sorry that there was not more support out there for you to become a mother. Parenthood can be a royal pain — but well worth every (heart) ache.

  13. I am sorry that there was not more support out there for you to become a mother. Parenthood can be a royal pain — but well worth every (heart) ache.

    What’s your idea of “support,” only taxing the rich, right? People like you crack me up, you’re 100% in favor of raising income taxes only on incomes higher than yours.

    How about we increase the income tax on YOUR tax bracket 25% to give me free day care and free health insurance, will you agree to that?

    I’ll bet you won’t….

    By the way, I need a government subsidized mortage for a house if I’m going to start a family. An apartment isn’t the right environment for me to raise my precious child. Can you help me support a government program to give me free auto insurance and free homeowner’s insurance too? I’m going to need to increase your taxes jimmy d, that’s okay with you right?

    Thanks you good-hearted generous soul, I KNEW I could count on you!!

  14. Brenda is a typical do-nothing, help-nobody Republican. She believes in the myth of the welfare queens. They do not exist.

    BristolDem is a typical socialist with the Robin Hood mentality who believes that they rich” don’t need all that money” and promotes redistribution of wealth so he doesn’t have to work. He’d rather sit around and collect welfare even though he’s perfectly capable of working, he’s just too lazy. I mean after all, who’s going to pay for his high-speed internet and his fancy cell phone plan including unlimited text messaging? Don’t forget the super extended cable TV package with every version of HBO and Showtime, NO ONE can live without that!

    Pretty soon the socialists will want all that stuff for free too!

  15. I wonder what key words put a person’s post in the “Your comment is awaiting moderation” queue?

    I have a pending post in this thread that isn’t visible, I wonder why?

  16. I used the word “socialist” twice when responding to BristolDem. I wonder if that did it?

  17. Yep, sure enough, I responded to BristolDem and used the word “s_o_c_i_a_l_i_s_t” twice and I guess that’s a naughty word around here!

  18. How about facist?

  19. Looks like it’s okay to use the word “facist” here but if you use the word “s_o_c_i_a_l_i_s_t” your post has to await moderation.

    Chris, why is that?

  20. Let’s try it this way and see what happens:

    Brenda is a typical do-nothing, help-nobody Republican. She believes in the myth of the welfare queens. They do not exist.

    BristolDem is a typical “s_o_c_i_a_l_i_s_t” with the Robin Hood mentality who believes that they rich” don’t need all that money” and promotes redistribution of wealth so he doesn’t have to work. He’d rather sit around and collect welfare even though he’s perfectly capable of working, he’s just too lazy. I mean after all, who’s going to pay for his high-speed internet and his fancy cell phone plan including unlimited text messaging? Don’t forget the super extended cable TV package with every version of HBO and Showtime, NO ONE can live without that!

    Pretty soon the “s_o_c_i_a_l_i_s_t_s” will want all that stuff for free too!

  21. How about facist?

    Do you hate facebook? 🙂
    (It’s fascist)

  22. Brenda is a typical do-nothing, help-nobody Republican.

    Better that than a “typical do-nothing let-someone else who I think is rich help me” Democrat.

  23. Better that than a “typical do-nothing let-someone else who I think is rich help me” Democrat.

    You mean, like SEBAC’s Matt O’Connor?

    “We just need to raise rates on the wealthiest in Connecticut,” O’Connor said. “Despite what the Yankee Institute claims in its most recent study, the wealthy in Connecticut are doing pretty good. The Greenwich hedge fund manager is certainly seeing lower numbers on his balance sheet, but he still has the second home on Long Island and the vacation home in the south of France and the fleet of cars. He’s still living large.”

    http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-income-tax-0727.artjul27,0,2243424.story

    There’s a reason why no one takes SEBAC seriously anymore.

  24. Where is all the support to stop unfunded mandates that are hurting every town? As reported today in the Courant by Mr. Keating, 4 towns in CT pay 25%of the income taxes. This is unsustainable! If your Town or City is waiting to the last possible minute to put together their respective budget based on some monopoly money handout from the State, then you have a Town or City Government you can’t afford. And not being able to lay-off public workers (and with it, shrink pension and health benefits) when the private sector is shrinking at a much faster pace, doesn’t help.

  25. Jack,
    Matt O’Connor last quote is unbelievable! Does he have any facts to base his conclusions on how “rich” people live? O’Connor is fueled by jealosy. It is none of his or anyone elses business how much money someone makes in the private sector.

  26. Bristol Dem,

    We conservative’s don’t mind helping the helpless among us, but are tired for paying for the clueless.

  27. Brenda, a lot of your comments seem designed to antagonize other people, as opposed to posting constructive ideas that move the dialog forward. I hope the editors are on the lookout for those kinds of comments.

    Gov. Rell should be ASHAMED that she simply ignored the budget reality since February. Her own budget chief is on tape, acknowledging the size of the deficit, the day before she issued her budget. Yet she still cherry picked a fake number and balanced that.

    Believe me, I have a LOT of issues with Democrats in the legislature. But there are 187 of them – of course it’s hard to come to consensus. What excuse does the governor have?

  28. … why should my … blockquote>

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    Brenda,

    You’d be amazed at how much you sound just like my kids when they are asked to help around the house. “I’ll put way this toy, but SHE played with that one as much as me, so I WON’T put away THAT toy.” “Why do I ALWAYS have to be the one to help her with her shoes? It’s not fair!” “I don’t CARE if we’re all part of one family – I’m only going to dust MY room – NOT the living room!” “If HE gets one – then I GET one… or else I QUIT!”

    Usually, we are able to show the kids see that helping and sharing makes life better for everyone. But not always. After all, they’re just kids.

  29. We will never get the Statew Budget under control until we break from the nipple of the Fed. Many States across the country are proposing bills concerning State Sovereignty. CT should follow. Nebraska is the newest State.

    http://www.cga.ct.gov/2009/rpt/2009-R-0215.htm

  30. We conservative’s don’t mind helping the helpless among us, but are tired for paying for the clueless.

    That explains why you always oppose health care for the uninsured, any remote expansion of welfare, try to cut funds for the Special Olympics (see Palin) and ANY expansion of public school or state university funding to ensure a greater education experience.

    I think you guys like to just call all of the helpless clueless so that you don’t pay for anything. It’s the lazy way out.

  31. That explains why you always oppose health care for the uninsured, any remote expansion of welfare…. .

    Republicans in CT more than doubled the amount of time former welfare mothers could receive medical coverage for their children in 1985 after watching the Democrats kill the identical bill the year before unanimously.

    Connecticut is among a handful of states that will go after and garnish the pay of former aid recipients. Clearly a disincentive towards anyone bootstrapping themselves out of poverty.

    When challanged the Democrats have for years refered to any other policy as some sort of big business give-away.

  32. It’s the lazy way out.

    No – that’s having the government pick up the pieces and not very efficiently at that.

    Foster children are left in institutions unless and until someone provides any potential foster home a bed.

    The need in CT has been over-whelming some years leaving children in limbo often for weeks or months.
    My church provided enough beds and cash after multiple fund raising events to cover the need for a full year.
    What have you done about that?

    Katrina was a mess – here’s a photo of “the lazy way out” we took.

    Government is rarely the answer to anything and when it does show up, there’s usually a bill of some sort due later.

  33. Gov. Rell should be ASHAMED that she simply ignored the budget

    The Democrats have consistently ignored the fact that the state has been spending beyond our means for ages.

  34. Or conversely, the Rupublicans have consistently ignored the fact that the state’s revenues have been insufficient to fund the services provided.

    It looks like the comments have wandered far afield of the original post. Perhaps we need to set up a separate, permanent tag line in the right column so that readers can argue to their hearts content about the appropriate scope and role of government, and explain why all evils in the world are due to the (choose one) Republicans/Democrats.

  35. Well my definition of clueless is the ever expanding group of people who expect and demand that others pay for there livelyhood. I wasn’t talking about those that can’t help themselves, I’m talking about those who won’t.
    How dare you turn this into a debate about the Special Olympics.

  36. The Democrats have consistently ignored the fact that the state has been spending beyond our means for ages.

    In the state with the highest per capita income in America, in the state with America’s highest gross state product per capita, we can well afford to do much better than this.

    We just have to get beyond the misanthropy of our mean.

  37. In the state with the highest per capita income in America, in the state with America’s highest gross state product per capita, we can well afford to do much better than this.

    Just so long as we increase someone elses taxes but not yours.

    Got it.

  38. Just so long as we increase someone elses taxes but not yours.

    ACR,

    You should look both ways before blogging.

    I would gladly pay higher taxes if it meant helping people in need.

    It’s our moral duty and our patriotic duty.

  39. It’s our moral duty and our patriotic duty.

    Thank you, Joe Biden.

    Too bad raising taxes doesn’t help people in need. Ask the residents of New Haven, Waterbury, Hartford and Bridgeport how high taxes are treating them.

  40. Jack,

    Been here, done this.

    So I’ll let you have the least word.

  41. I take ACR’s point that the Democrats leading the legislature are far from perfect… but how do you justify that Gov. Rell and Genuario both publicly acknowledged the size of the deficit, before “balancing” a “budget” based on a completely false number? There’s only one governor’s office, she has the bully pulpit, she takes the first shot. And this year, she badly missed. If not for the override, there wouldn’t even be a number to agree on now…

    I can see arguments for both sides of why raising taxes is bad and why cutting services is bad. But I don’t think anyone can come to the table and expect to be taken seriously by refusing to do at least some of both. It’s called compromise.

  42. It’s our moral duty and our patriotic duty.

    OK, “moral” eh?
    So where are you regarding abortion, capital punishment, and/or gay rights?

    The fact is it’s not “moral” or “patriotic” to confiscate property from one for the benefit of another so you’ll feel good about all the good you’ve done.
    Want the endorphine high?
    Earn it yourself.
    Pay your own way on a mission trip someplace.
    Raise oodles of cash for whatever group you think is the most worthy.
    Hold a coat drive.

    The rest of us are under no moral obligation to support whatever favorite charity group yours is, as we might well have our own already.

    Want to help others?
    Do it yourself with your own assets and leave everyone elses alone.

    Here’s something to consider: Thou shall not steal

  43. ACR,

    Have you thought of mentoring a troubled child? Your self-directed, pompous, screw-everyone-else moral code could easily give us our next Attila the Hun, Idi Amin, or even Saddam Hussein. Are you really as bitterly paranoid as you sound? Everyone’s out to get your little pile of gold? I really hope it’s just a pose, or a blogger/mask you like wearing. Otherwise, my friend, you are one sad, sorry f—que. My condolences to your friends and family.

  44. Have you thought of mentoring a troubled child?

    No, have you?

    How about running a coat drive for our Vets?

    Doubling both the necessary amount needed, and recipients for a civic group’s annual scholarship?

    Work a fund-raiser dinner; sell pumpkins, or do something else to raise funds for a non-political group that is in no way associated with yourself?

    Be a DECA employer.

    Everyone’s out to get your little pile of gold?

    There is no pile of gold of any size.

    When a self-employed gets embezzled; there is no longer any retirement fund, or any other funds at all for that matter.

    That hasn’t stopped me, once I took a job, from donating in excess of 10% of my gross earnings annually to those less fortunate.

    It appears to me that it’s you that assumes that every Republican, or anyone who dares disagree with you, is loaded, self-centered, and cheap.
    Odd since from many of our perspectives it is those that wish to confiscate property from one group to give to another, are exactly that.

    Selfish and greedy – not to mention sanctimonious.

    You might review the donation section of notable members of both parties and see just who is cheap and self-centered.
    With rare exception – it’s not us.

    I notice you post with no link of any sort to your own blog etc. and thus post anonymously.
    Pretty easy taking pot shots under those circumstances where you’re never accountable for your words huh?

  45. AndersonScooper

    James D,

    You’ve got ACR all wrong. He’s not one of those greedy bastard Republicans who measure their net worths twice a day.

    Instead he’s simply a pull-the-ladder-up-behind him type, the kind of Republican that wants no one (including themselves) to know/see where they’re from, and who are generally too quick to forget all the public assistance they enjoyed on their way from A to B.

  46. ACR,

    Why do you care so much about anonymous posting?

    I’m sure you are aware that “Common Sense” by Thomas Paine was originally published anonymously, would you have told him to attach his name?

    In this format it isn’t ‘who’ says it that matters it’s ‘what’ they say that matters.

  47. I am no longer anonymous.

    We all took a vote (secret ballot).

    I am now unanimous.

  48. Why do you care so much about anonymous posting?

    Leads to a dramatic decline in decorum.

  49. Instead he’s simply a pull-the-ladder-up-behind him type, the kind of Republican that wants no one (including themselves) to know/see where they’re from, and who are generally too quick to forget all the public assistance they enjoyed on their way from A to B.

    “Public assistance”??

    When was that?
    What did I miss?

  50. You’ve got ACR all wrong. He’s not one of those greedy bastard Republicans who measure their net worths twice a day.

    Scooper, I now find myself measuring my net worth every day because the Democrats keep stealing my money and give it to the people who don’t want to work to buy their vote! I’m counting right now but everyday, I have less.

  51. ACR,

    I appreicate the need for decorum, but random acts of unkindness can not overtake the need for an open discussion of issues, and, in light of the nature of these topics some people may be at risk for exposing themselves or others to employment risk, etc. I’m with you on decorum, but it isn’t more important than the free flow of information.

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